For all those readers who have 'just' joined us, this post is part 3 of an un-predicted but interesting discussion about 'love'. It starts from my post '
About a Boy' (Part 2 is '
Why we said the things we said').
Hey Andi,
This is my reply to your reply to my reply to your post about 'love'. Heehee... So here goes...
The first words that escaped out of my mouth were, "Dear Lord", followed by, " Thats one big ass reply !". :-p heehee.. Its almost like I've unleashed a monster ! Snicker snicker... just kidding... I had read your reply in the morning (Indian time) but was kinda rushed so couldn't reply right away. Now I see you have made a few changes. Anyway, so lets start.
I am not suprised that you'd 'beg' (:-p) to differ. See, I think the concept of love is universal and along with the concept of 'religion', it is a very personal thing that varies from one person to the other.
Test of timeI agree with you 100 percent there. A person should never rush and make hasty decisions when it involves peoples lives like this. I have known people who have regretted a lot about how they moved up too fast and should have taken it slower. But I also know people who took too much time and by the time they were sure that they were in 'love', the object of affection was beyond their reach (emotionally or had moved to another continent or gotten over them). Therefore, that leaves a very small 'window of opportunity' and so a fine balance is required between waiting and actually doing something about it. Also, its not always possible to re-kindle a possible romance after some months or years. Who knows you might never meet that person again ! Its not necessary that you were close to the object of your affection in the first place ! A fine example of all this would be the guy you had a crush on. He liked you too then but he waited and waited and took his time and now he comes forward. You have moved on and now you know that it was just a 'crush'. But I'm sure you wud've said yes then ! For the guy, 'that time' was it and he blew it. For you, you would have realised by now that you made a mistake and probably would have broken up. BUT, i can guarentee you that he would any day prefer that little time spent with you than all of life without you (taking for granted ofcourse that he was a genuine person and not just some horny pig).
Men the go-gettersSee, guys may seem quick to decide but they always know what they are doing. At that point of time anyway. And its not always about being horny (guys can be horny 24/7 for probably years on end till their body finally gives in). If it were left to the girls to ask out guys... well... then good luck world ! :-p And yes, girls take way too much time.
Trust Fate ?Yaar... all that you said in this regard only matters if a person actually believes in the concept of 'fate'. I kinda don't. I believe that if you need something done then go ahead and do it. You can't really sit around looking for a sign. This doesn't mean that you rush into everything. Take your time. Maybe, some kind of sign may present itself, but incase it doesn't, then please don't wait forever. Timing is eveything and not everyone can get it right all the time !
LOVE for sure ?
Now HERE I would wanna differ with you the MOST ! I think you know 'love' and 'how to be loved and love back' from the moment you are born ! I don't think the brain needs to devolop some special area just to conprehend love for that significant other ! Sure it may not be fully developed till age 25, but how does that prove that our ability to love and be loved also doesn't fully develop till age 25. We we take that line of reasoning then a 30 year old brain is fully developed, more mature and way more experienced than a 25 year old brain. Then should we all just wait to be 30 ? or better yet 90 ? No ya... I cannot wait that loooooong ! :-p
Now for your question " how do you know how you've met the one if you haven't tested any other option let alone see all the potentials of what life may have in store for you"
See, I think this question is most valid if a person goes ahead and marries the very first person he/she goes out with ! I wouldn't recommend that ! But even then, you never know, maybe its a match 'made in heaven'. It could be perfect... or could be a mess. Anything is possible.
And the beauty about the 'trail and error' way is that its NOT marriage ! So if you do find some one better, its best if you move on. Otherwise you are actually living a lie and basically just ruining your life and the life of your present partner by denying him/her the love that he/she deserves.
I agree, I believe in the trial and error way but, what you are talking about is the next step ! I've just realised. We are both talking about the same thing but only at different stages. I say AFTER you've found the right guy/girl, then comes the 'safe,distant yet consistent' part. For me thats the natural evolution of the relationship. I don't think one can start from the 'safe, distant yet consistent' stage.
And your being a Libra can't possibly help ! :-p i know a lotta libras and man... YOU PEOPLE ARE INCAPABLE OF TAKING DECISIONS !
And not only your female friends but also me and I'm sure a lot of my male friends will also agree that "love for us is when we can't stop thinking about a person in her absence... time proximity with that person should not be a big issue". Thats not in dispute. But the "what if we can't find anyone better" got me confused. Um.. so what if you can't find anyone better ? Doesn't that just mean that you already are with the better person ?!?!
What about 'think before you leap' ?
I think if you 'think' too much about it then you are just killing the excitement factor. Sometimes you should just go with the flow and take life as it comes to you. It can turn out to be very rewarding ! If you start thinking about 'how the hell am i going to make this work?' even before you start, then the whole thing pretty much looks doomed to me !
Now i think you might have mis-understood me a little bit. The product of the confession of 'A' is of a lot of concequence to him. But that may not necessarily alter his life significantly. If she says 'yes', then his life would change for the better. But , if she is to say 'no', then hs life cannot get any worse. Why ? Because in this particular case -
(a) the two people are not very close.
(b) they hardly have any interaction at all anymore (they did not have much to start with anyway).
They rarely meet or talk. She not really a part of his life in the 'physical' sense. Emotional yes. Therefore all of us (including him) think that she has been 'lost'. So, a confession can't really push her any further away. But, it can make him feel better (as learnt from my personal experience). That might sound selfish, but another aspect is that maybe she has gotten sick of waiting for him to ask her out (we thought she gave a lotta hints during the early days) and so confessing might actually re-kindle the whole thing !
And trust me, telling someone how much you 'love' them can never be a waste of time, effort or energy. Besides, who doesn't like hearing it ? :-p
Expressing LoveWhat you say sounds very romantic but I'm sure at some point of time, you'd just like to hear that person tell you how much they love you. I know I would. That could be romantic too.
What do you want out of love?Unfortunately the practical ways to make a realationship work leave very little room for 'Ideal Love' of that kind to survive. Everyone expects. I should know. I usually don't expect anything from anyone, but once in a while, even my hopes are raised. Its only human... to expect.
Issues with ProximityLike I said before, in this case, he isn't around her at all anyway. So it can't get any worse. Therefore, he is not really escaping from anything. Who says that its do or die ? That if the answer is 'no' you have to break all contact ? If the girl has her heart in the right place, then i'm sure this 'relationship' can atleast continue at the same level even after the confession.
Korean Culture
Like I said before, it sounds and probably is a very romantic way to make some one feel loved. But a few people (like me) would actually like to hear it. I see it as an extension of the same romantic gestures.
Moral of the story : When guys see someone they like, they find the courage and go for it (usually ! But trust me its not easy to tell a girl you like her. Even if you've been friends forever). Also, you should only wait and watch (delay it) if you believe in 'fate', otherwise you are just screwing with the other persons feelings !
Even if its meant to be, one still needs to 'do something about it'. Things don't happen on their own !
Also, I love this song and your version is EXCELLENT ! I'm going to download it ! You sing well ! Its been playing over and over all this while !! I never thought that 'About a boy' would lead me to write so much about 'love'. And GOD ! You had a LOT to say about the topic ! :-p Anyway...its been a great experience ! Its nice to get a different perspective of things !
A couple of years ago (in my ignorance then), I had tried to define 'love'. Needless to say, I had crashed and burned and decided its probably best left a mystery.
Right then, I'm off to sleep land. You take care and yea... lets keep talking about more things ! :-)
Keep in touch !